Tuesday 20 March 2012

Bong Identity – Ten Ways to identify a Ghoti or a Bangal


For the past few days, one very basic question has been haunting me and that’s the source of inspiration of trying to scribble. The question is a very basic one – “What is a person’s identity?” Since our childhood, we have been very much acquainted with the term “Identity” and one rectangular locket or amulet type of object called “Identity Card”. In school or offices, the security system recognizes you by your identity card. The criminologists identify one person more uniquely by finger prints or even by DNA testing – in a nutshell, whatever be the process or scope, the basic objective is identity determination.

The fundamentals of identity is not rigid, it’s very much flexible and can be stretched or contracted as per the requirements or even can be defined in a totally different way. When I am in office – my unique identity is my “Name and Employee ID”; when I am in Salt Lake Stadium in Kolkata watching an East Bengal and Mohan Bagan football match, my identity is a “Bangal”; similarly while in Mumbai, I am a “Bong” and in Dubai or Kuwait, I am an “Indian” or an “Asian” on the streets of NY. This is just the identity determination process based on demographics. There can appear other attributes as well. To the banker, you are nothing but a “Customer Number” or an “Account Number” while doing some transactions. From the ideological or political view points, people can also brand you as a “Leftist” or an “Atheist” or a “Muslim” etc. The truth is that at any moment, we don’t assume one particular identity but a combination of multiple identities satisfying different roles and responsibilities. Our actions are heavily influenced by our roles and identities we are assuming and thus identities build our culture, heritage, circles, and degrees of freedom and surprisingly sometimes we take birth with a new identity from our surrounding cultures or circles.

In my first blog, I want to scribble on which I feel one of the most interesting topics of discussion in bringing up of every Bengalee , at least applicable to all my Bengalee friends. Please don’t take it otherwise, but I feel somehow the sentiments over “Ghoti-Bangal” demarcation have died down in recent times, more precisely after 90’s. It can be a matter of debate – whether it’s good or bad. Very sad to say, but I have seen in many occasions, finally the alliance could not be made as the boy and girl were not from the same sect (or social group) “Ghoti” or “Bangal”. In this age of globalization, should we support this type of internal segmentation? In this context, I want to refer to one article authored by Vir Sanghvi on “Kolkata”. Mr. Sanghvi mentioned in that article, Bong (surprisingly have discovered one interesting fact – the word “Bong” is not giving any spelling suggestion in MS Word; but the word “Bengalee” is giving; can you guys check the same?) people love to call Kolkata as a “Bong-city” whereas the Delhites or Mumbaikars  don’t. So by nature, we like such brandings because we feel that they add some spice to our culture and traditions. I feel only we, Bong people can spend (or idle away) 2-3 hours at a stretch on talking, leg pulling with our creative thoughts and ideas on – politics, US policy on Iraq, how fish can be cooked in a better way or even by taunting a “Ghoti” friend or a superb mimicry of “Bangal” version of the Bengali language. Anyway, I apologize for talking a lot in different directions – finally coming to the main topic of this blog “Ten ways to identify a Ghoti or a Bangal”.

1.       Origins & Dialects: - This is the most distinctive way by which a Bong can be recognized as a “Ghoti” or a “Bangal”. The people from erstwhile East Pakistan are called “Bangals” and the other people who inherit their origins to districts of modern day West Bengal are called “Ghotis”. The Bengali dialects used by these two sects (or social groups) also differ significantly. Both the dialect forms are primarily differentiated by phonetic effects of epenthesis. But now-a-days, the dialect difference is gradually disappearing. Most of the Bong people in and around Kolkata stick to one standard form of Bengali speaking and that can be coined as “Kolkata Bengali or Bookish Bengali”. However, the pronunciations like ‘Nebu’, ‘Nuchi’, ‘Nouko’ etc. definitely point to a “Ghoti” while ‘Ilsha’, ‘Khamu’, ‘Jamu’, ‘Maira Phatai Dimu’ are the characteristics of a perfect “Bangal”.

2.       F1 Factor: - In our school days, to identify “Ghoti” or “Bangal” I feel all of us used to play one trick – asking one new student or even a close friend one particular question. The question is “Which club do you support – East Bengal or Mohan Bagan”? If the answer is “EB”, then definitely he or she is a “Bangal”, else the other option left.  Believe this or not, this is the only way yielding almost 100% accuracy.

3.       F2 Factor: - If F1 factor is “Football”, definitely the F2 factor is liking of “Fish”. “Bangal”s are characterized by their love of “Ilsha” (Hilsa) fish while “Ghoti”s by their love of lobsters and prawns. Apart from all other significant differences in food habits and cuisines, the Hilsa and Lobsters are so sound that they can be used as the symbols or emblems of these two sects. Even during the football matches between East Bengal and Mohan Bagan, I have seen people going to stadium with Hilsa or Lobsters to support their teams.

4.       Food Habits: - One “Bangal” is totally rice oriented – he starts his breakfast with rice, takes rice in lunch and finishes his dinner with rice. On the other hand, one “Ghoti” likes to have a variety with some other things apart from rice say “Nuchi” and they are known for their all time fascination for poppy seeds based dishes and that’s truly awesome. There is also significant difference between “Bangal” or “Ghoti” cuisine in terms of using spices like cumin, mustard, coriander etc. It may be a debatable comment but I feel “Bangal” cuisine is more diversified and longer than that of “Ghoti” cuisine.

5.       Professional Inclination: - From my point of view, what I have realized that “Bangals” are good risk takers and they like to try their luck with businesses and entrepreneurships, while “Ghotis” are much more oriented towards fixed salaried jobs and some secured ways of income.

6.       Richness factor (funny oneJ):- When asked about their ancestors in East Bengal, most of the “Bangals” reply that their ancestors were very rich in East Bengal. The volumes, they cite about their ancestral farming lands, groves or ranches are so huge that if we add all of them (cited by all the “Bangals”), 2-3 additional Bangladesh (erstwhile East Pakistan) will be required to match that accumulated figure.

7.       Surname Factors: - Not in all cases but there are certain surnames like Maiti, Ghorai, Hati, Guchait, Modak etc are the distinct identification that the person is a “Ghoti”. “Bangal”s have no unique list of surnames by which they can be distinguished distinctively.

8.       Padma vs Rupnarayan: - Above 90% Bong people like Hilsa but the opinion on the “Best Hilsa” differs between “Bangal” and “Ghoti”. “Which river is the best for Hilsa?” – When asked, the “Bangal” answer is “Padma” while the “Ghoti” version is “Rupnarayan”. And believe it or not, an expert Bong gourmet can tell you blindfolded the exact source river name just by tasting the Hilsa dishes prepared.

9.       Folk traditions and cultures: - “Ghoti” and “Bangal” identifications are mainly based on food habits and cuisines. But their folk traditions and cultures also significantly differ in many cases like customs or rituals in Pujas, celebrations like marriages, rice-ceremonies and also day to day lifestyles. One good example is (indebted to Wikipedia) – “Bangal”s celebrate Laxmi Puja on the fifth day after Durga Puja while “Ghoti”s celebrate Laxmi Puja on the day of Kali Puja.

10.   District tag: - In this age of globalization, though this tag has lost its relevance a lot. Still some theory of probability can be applied on the home district name associated with a Bong. It seems that the exodus from Bangladesh (or East Pakistan) came to West Bengal but in rare cases dared to cross the Hooghly River. That’s why if a Bong is from a district on the western side of Hooghly, he or she is inclined to being a “Ghoti” while from the districts like Nadia or 24 Parganas, the chance of being a “Bangal” is more.

I feel the sixties and seventies were the golden days of “Ghoti”-“Bangal” theory and in recent times this has been fading away. Apparently to identify a person black or white is not good at all. In that context, what is happening is good. I have scribbled the above ten ways not to start branding people as “Bangal” or “Ghoti” – but more to memorize the eternal sportsman spirit of Bong people, to memorize those days of tensions hovering over East Bengal vs Mohan Bagan football matches, who will be the winner – Paltu (Paltu Das – ex head of East Bengal) or Tutu (Tutu Bose – ex head of Mohan Bagan).

Actually frustrated with many problems in their daily life, inflations, unemployment, futile politics etc - Bong people found a small simple way of amusement in football and the “Ghoti”-“Bangal” theory added some spice to that. Still visible before my eyes –furious over the defeat, Chhotka (my youngest uncle and a diehard Bangal) was preparing for going to his bosom friend Gopal Manna’s (Ghoti) place to have dinner with prawns after Mohan Bagan won the shield defeating East Bengal by 3-2; dinner with prawns is always mouth-watering but somewhere it was pinching Chhotka (of course the reason was East Bengal’s defeat); He was roaring – “Sala.. aijka emon khaoa khamu je beta ar konodin Mohan Bagan-re jitanor nam loibo na (<’Sala’ is a very decent slang and very popular in Bengal. Unable to find the exact counterpart in English language where the slangs seem to be very hard> Tonight I will eat so much in his treat that he’ll never think again about Mohan Bagan’s win and will invite me for a dinner to celebrate the same)”.

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  1. as a "Ghoti" I can say I found the differences quite amusing. I would like to point out one more difference regarding cuisine- Bangals like it more spicy - "Jhaal" being the word, while Ghoti's prefer it a bit sweet - "mishti".
    Nice to see you blog too! Keep it up

    Nangs (Sourish er doulote ei short form taai use kori !)

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  2. Point to be noted... But Bangal-der modhye Borishal-er lokjon-o torkari-te mishti dite bhalobase...

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    1. Never mind. Ami Barishailya kina, no sentence Hala chara bolte parina.

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  3. Good piece to read.. But Hilsa and Prawn, both I like in the same course of meal.. So, in that case, what Scribbler will tag me? ;)

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  4. I more difference ...

    Bangals can get their head as low as imaginable just to survive ..

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    1. i guess everyody wil do that .. evn u..if the situation arises... say suddenly within 1 week's notice u come 2 know that west bengl will become an independnt country separat frm India and u wil hv to settle in madhya pradesh or bihar or assam n nearby areas.. bt cbt stay in bengal anymore... u hv 7 days tym in hand.. n there is riot evrywhere.. wt wil u do.. ghotis were lucky..bt we r the fighters... n we hv proved it..we hv survived the storm.. first stay alive...then show ur ego...ghoti der toh porikhay i dite hoy ni..beche gehce.. anyway...look at d diff btwn south kol n north kol... north kol is so backward n south kol is advanced...isnt it???

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    2. ekdom thik south kolkata te jomjomat ache bangal der dil khula jeta ghoti der theke asha kora jaye na

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    3. Dnt talk about the modernity of south kolkata....North kolkata was already well established by the ghotis before hand, a long before bangals came to kolkata and its in evry metropolitian city the developement has taken place in the outskirts and then that area became the part of the city.....the same for south kolkata and as it was unused land bangals being the refugees took shelter their

      wht fight u are talking about.....u r nt fighters bcz fighters dnt run away from deir motherland, dey do or die and bangals have left their motherland jst to live....so beter turn the pages of history and then speak

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    4. Dear all grow up!!! we don't want another Telegana. North, South East and West are all a part of Kolkata and we want it that way...

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    5. yup kolkata was a much cleaner and more beautified city in parity with time before the partition took place and bangals came here!

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    6. ghotira ingrejder tabedari korey babuanay mogno keranigitey mogno hoye kichu poisha kamiye niye nilo mukhey agoon aar petay agoon...aar tader porobotira beshir bhag-i holo ja achey bechay khaowa aar bhara diye poshchyat desh ultey thaka lumpen...tai beshir bhag north kolkatar bari bhanga chora...khomota hoyni shariye tolar...shobi naki shoriki gondogol...hhahahah....bibhyui thekay eshay prothom thekay shuru korley hoytoh onaharey mrityu shonkha marattok onupatey oporikolponiyo hoto...assumptions apart...for info for ghotis...Bangladesher area is 147,570 km² and where as 88,752 km² is of WB...and to all gandus like us...here is the stat: 19% of muslims in WB in 1947 rose to 24% today and 39% of Hindus in Bangladesh in 1947 fell to 9% today....shame Hindus...shame

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    7. Yes now south Kolkata is developed than north Kolkata .But before 1960 it was north Kolkata that was far more aristocratic and civilized than south.Example-Tagore Family.

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    8. By developing south Kolkata u are actually developing a Ghoti area.Because everyone knows that WB is of ghotis and Bangals have taken shelter in it.

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    9. Who said bangals stay in south kokata?i m a ghoti n i proudly stay in aouth kolkata...u bangals hv come in our land n polluted nt juz r language bt even r culture...jotoshob ...

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    10. Well south Calcutta jha chokchoke hote pare kintu avijatter dik theke north er kache kichhu na....se chokhchok to city gold o kore sonar theke besi...

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    11. Ekta kotha mante hobe Bangal ra ashar por kintu ranna e variety ta esheche ra Ghoti ra onak ranna shikte pereche

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  6. South Kolkata is a planned project whereas North Kolkata is opposite..

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    1. first look at your state's living condition and then talk about West Bengal

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  7. actually one more differences is there.....perfect bangals like shutki like shidol,nuna ilish while ghotis cannot bear the smell of it

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  8. Oh! I came here after watching the movie "Ora thake odhare". As a person being outside "Bangal and Ghoti", I have seen both and is really surprised how they attack each other over trivial issues. But its a good thing that most people have so much mingled with one another that the distinction is very thin.
    By the way, I hail from North Bengal (about 30 generations) and my father-in-law in Bangal while Mother-in-law Ghoti. And its a very pleasant thing when all these families forgot all the differences during my marriage and there after.

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  9. Dnt talk about the modernity of south kolkata....North kolkata was already well established by the ghotis before hand, a long before bangals came to kolkata and its in evry metropolitian city the developement has taken place in the outskirts and then that area became the part of the city.....the same for south kolkata and as it was unused land bangals being the refugees took shelter their

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  10. Hello,
    I was searching for some literature on Bangal Ghoti cuisine, and somehow reached here.
    It is 'interesting' to see, till date, some bengalis have the B/G Flame inside! It is really important that the same remains 'intact', at least till the time loads of research and writings capture the subtle nature of differences of these two communities, their narratives and so on and so forth, before those are wiped out of memory over generation. What ever it may be, it is indeed a part of bengali history.

    To forget is so easy in this case! After all, 85% of the bengali population have not witnessed 1946 first hand; Chromosome of Q and likes in the film making industry (giving respite to Dhanuka band wagon) vibrates at only one aspect; some could not connect to the agony of their parents and grand parents,and some, could not connect to the agony of people having same lingua materna.

    But hopefully, we will not forget. And we will someday have well documented and well narrated and easily available history and tales of Bangal and Ghoti. History of fates of a race, decided at Luyten's Delhi, at a meeting room over some days, on a piece of map and some papers of Radcliffe, with strange treatment to Khulna and Murshidabad, with half baked solution of Coochbehar and Rangpur (leaving behind places like Dahala Khagrabari) and of course, with Chingri-Elish and East Bengal-Mohun Bagan.


    Before I sign out, must share my appreciation to 'Scribbler' for writing a nice article (and instigating some bengali minds to comment).
    Additionally, I would like to share a (perhaps) not so well known fact. (Reader's own discretion requested). Apart from Bangal and Ghoti, a substantial number of Bengalis identify themselves as "Edeshi" or "Edeshiya". (Unfortunately, Wikipedia took a short cut to mark Edeshi as Ghoti). They are native dwellers at places like Dinajpur, Eastern Bihar adjoining bengal borders, parts of Jalpaiguri, Malda, and plains of Darjeeling district. They speak a native dialect more close to 'Suryapuri'. They celebrate the Neel Pujo, like many Ghoti families, but again, Laxmi pujo after 5 days of Durga puja.

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  11. ghoti ra vishon har kipta ar ora kemon jeno kalo moton south indian der moto hoi but bangal ra dekhte shundor hoi ar dil khola :)

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    1. kono dino ekjon bangal k deki ni jaa ke dekhe south indian mone hoe ni lol

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    2. To all bangals who are criticizing ghotis specially bangals girls. If you feed a dog na that also remain loyal to you. You bangals came to our land, use our resources we gave you refuge and rather being garatitute towards us you are saying we are ugly. I feel like splitting on your blood lineage. First cowardly left your mother land then coming here doing all sorts of unwanted activity. We Rarh are decendents of great gangarid kingdom and we are fighters.You people have take advantage of our simplicity. Actually now I understand why BODOs are killing you in Assam we should have done the same since 1950. Some said we are dark sala idiot Krishna and Rama dark color chilen. Idiot racist krityagyahin. Wait time has came that Rarh people will start kicking you bangals

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    3. Lata Roy ,you maybe very beautiful but let me tell you mam ,you are a member of a club named Refugee.

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    4. Go to ur kangladesh u beggars bangal

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    5. 1st time sunchi Mongolians looks good. Learn the geography from where Dravidian hails.

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  12. hi! i was searching for such an article over this conflict between ghoti and bangal! being "ba-ti".. that is ghoti+bangal i have witnessed both the sides and can definitely tell you that people from either sides have a lot of loopholes so i cannot dare to identify either one as dominant over the other... but i can tell you a few features of them! bangals are miser in general and can do anything to keep up with their reputation! while ghotis r generally idle and believe more in luck than work and off course they are more frank and heartly.... believe it or not but in most cases this is true! and to some of my preceeding bloggers who have mentioned about kolkata, this ghoti bangal theory is not confined to only kolkata but to the entire state so visit different places and then decide.. hope i have kept up with the sentiments of both bangal and ghoti! ;-)

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  13. Thank you all for expressing your views...

    Today I would like to share a few of my liking /a few facts about me in "Ghoti-Bangal" context-
    1. I like "Bipattarini Puja" mainly observed by the "Ghotis"; the reason is "Luchi" and an awesome "Labra or Chhachra" prepared by using 13 different types of vegetables.
    2. My favorite street food junctions are in North Kolkata and again for that I am indebted to "Ghotis"
    3. At the same time, I find delicacy in "Nona-Ilish" and "Shutki" - I find it difficult to imagine how people (Ghotis) can't like Shutki?
    4. In some cases, Ghotis suffer from excessive ablutomania ("Suchibai") which is really a torture for other people.
    5. At first a disclaimer: No offence intended and actually many of my very good friends are from that region in WB - But in our school days, we used to tag some of our friends as "TUMPA" member (you can say, a subset of "Ghoti" people) - The full form of TUMPA, I will not tell...
    6. I don't know "Bangal" girls are more beautiful or "Ghoti" girls are more beautiful - My wife is a "Bangal" and in the context of beauty, she is above the average (not my sole opinion but others' as well..) - but in my school days, my first two crushes, both the girls were beautiful, Ghoti and heart-snatchers..

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  14. TUMPA = Typical uncivilized midnapuri public association !!! :D

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    1. Midnapore was epicenter of revolutionary activity since freedom struggle. I request this blogger to stop insulting Ghotis like this. Bangals never able to compete with medinapore people so tag this kind of derogatory words with them. How you people can do that ??.. I would request any body from medinapore pls reply on this issue. Even Jews pay gratitute to Indians because once in a history Jews were in India and Hindus never prosecuted them. But see you bangals have any bangal refugee association paid any gratitude function to Rarh people who gave them refuge.Actually the whole fault is with us we Rarh who were too simple to calculate you people.

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    2. Cities like Kharagpur;Haldia;Midnapore;Tamluk;Contai; are in Midnapur.
      And these cities will tell you that Midnapurians are more civilized than many other districts.

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    4. Medinipur is one of the most educated districts in West Bengal. Even Vidyasagar is from there, no districts or places can be compared with Midnapore in terms of education. Even IIT Khragpur is not in Kolkata but in Midnapur.I am not part of Midnapore, but I feel this is not the forum to malign them by Racism. If Ghotis start doing whole barisalia, kummilite, dhakaiya .... would be defamed. Moreover, we speak bookish bengali not dialect like bangals. It says who are more educated than whom. some of bangladesi channels also speak in Ghotis bengali

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    5. Sunita with no offence can you share your mail ID with me. In this forum I am astonished with the ungreatfulness of bangals. I feel there is now much need of #Ghoti identy movement in West bengal and people like you could be spear header of the movement.

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  15. Siddarth Mullick : my friend u talk about history .... u must know bangals were neither bandits nor militia formed over the years ..rather were agrarian people ...who suffered a lot becoz of partition .... Well I will take u to a tour of history ... Why did Raja Laxman sen flee to purba banga being ..driven by bakhtiar khalji ... Even being a mighty king? What does ur history prescription say here dude? Leave it ..bangals fight was not human flesh vivisecting glory but a life long struggle .... For survival and betterment ... Losing everything starting from 0 and regaining all ... Shame on u guys ... Look at the other side of india how Punjabi and Sindhi's from west were embraced by their brothers in mainland India ... And u people still carrying the racial rage even after 70 years... However all of ur rage and jealousy have gone in vain ... And no wonder this jealousy shows ....

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    1. @avishek no body is racist here
      if we have been racist, think where bangals would have gone in 1946 noakhali riots, 1950 barisal riots, 1971 bangladesh riots and GOD knows what all dates can be mentioned here.
      We welcomed them with open heart but they are pretty ungrateful, dont know courtsey at all. They still carry their own attitude of so called developing South Kolkata.
      and if we are racist then ASSAM and TRIPURA riots against bengalis have been repeated in WEST BENGAL also and would have been named as "BANGAL HOTAO BIDROHO"
      so first read the whole blog first and you will get to know what ghotis want to say

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    3. @avishek no body is racist here
      if we have been racist, think where bangals would have gone in 1946 noakhali riots, 1950 barisal riots, 1971 bangladesh riots and GOD knows what all dates can be mentioned here.
      We welcomed them with open heart but they are pretty ungrateful, dont know courtsey at all. They still carry their own attitude of so called developing South Kolkata.
      and if we are racist then ASSAM and TRIPURA riots against bengalis have been repeated in WEST BENGAL also and would have been named as "BANGAL HOTAO BIDROHO"
      so first read the whole blog first and you will get to know what ghotis want to say

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  16. Well Written.
    But it is partially described.
    Concludes that you are a "Ghoti".

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  17. My family hails from Khulna, present day Bangladesh. But our cuisine and lot of our traditions are more similar with that of Ghotis. Chingri mach and posto are more popular.
    Also, we celebrate Lakshmi Puja on the day of Kali Puja and the 'Sosthi' ritual is observed like the Ghotis.

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    1. yes....same here my family hails from jessore.....laxmi puja is held on the day of kali puja and sasthi is also done with the ghotis.......the locality where we live in are mostly habitated by kath bangals, the real east bangali people......so though we are culturally ghotis, originally we are bangals.......

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    3. even i have my friends from rajshahi and noagaon and a relative from natore, and i am from howrah.....evry ritual and festival is same of us.
      Evn they do lokhi pujo on bhadro, paush, karthik and chaitro mashe like us unlike only kojagori lokhi pujo like kath bangals from dacca, chattogram, noakhali, tangail.
      Evn they do all the shoshtis unlike only jamai shoshti like kath bangals
      they evn dnt have bashi biye like bangals

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  19. Wow…..this is a great entertainment; you know what I was thinking of watching a war movie in multiplex today but then I came across this page and guess what? I saved my 500 bucks by dropping the plan for movie because you guys entertained me a lot. Thanks for the entertainment. Please keep on posting so that I can call some of my friends with popcorn and watch rest of the show. Ha ha ha ha…..
    Amazing…….

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  20. To all bangals who are criticizing ghotis specially bangals girls. If you feed a dog na that also remain loyal to you. You bangals came to our land, use our resources we gave you refuge and rather being garatitute towards us you are saying we are ugly. I feel like splitting on your blood lineage. First cowardly left your mother land then coming here doing all sorts of unwanted activity. We Rarh are decendents of great gangarid kingdom and we are fighters.You people have take advantage of our simplicity. Actually now I understand why BODOs are killing you in Assam we should have done the same since 1950. Some said we are dark sala idiot Krishna and Rama dark color chilen. Idiot racist krityagyahin. Wait time has came that Rarh people will start kicking you bangals

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    1. Well said bro...u r soooo true....u faint hearted coward bangal people...u all came in r land n really polluted d ambience

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  21. Aunindo.... I think you don't even know the meaning of Feeding..... To Feed you need to give something which is yours...... To Feed you need something to be shared..... To Feed you need something own.....
    Laughing at the ridiculous choice of words..... ������
    If you would have killed Bangals then Bengali history would be over in one page...... ������

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    2. I think ur title is Dora which is a telegu title from rayagada dist so stay out of this. But if you happens to be a bangal who is using a anonymous name then listen mister first try to reclaim the land that ur forefathers have left or rather kicked out. Try to respect the community which had given you refuge in ur bad times.

      Bodos of Assam , tribals of tripura are killing Bangals why? ... All the communities can't be wrong at a time so there must be some problem with Bangals right ? Identify and rectify them.

      And don't worry abt one page history. Amount of page doesn't matter what written on those pages does matter.

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    3. Mr sylet don't be ostrich and if you don't have the guts to face the truth then die in vein many of your ancestors did that it makes no difference.

      I am not a bloody racist but you are a coward and try to hide behind these kind of arguments.

      First read the previous posts in which one of the bangal girl passed derogatory comments on Ghotis, so what you expect from us. You took refuge in our land we help you people in all ways you people pass a whole generation on CPM subsidy became a gheto voter then lecturing us.The bangals make it easy for bastards Communist to destroy RARH region and obviously 2 worst CM of WB were Bangals.

      Bangals were raped, butchered and thrown out of their 4 father's land and coming to India what their intellectia did ? ... Nothing I mean Nothing. They joined the Communist narrative that Muslims are very good, we all are humans and all that bullshits.

      At least proud Kashmiri pandits never did that. There intellectia was not taritor or betrayed their own people. In every possible platform they raised their voice. Openly said that Islam is a problem and they will not go back to their old neighbhours unlike bangal Nachiketa likes who when went to forefathers land cried there for 20 minutes then told Muslims are brothers bastard chutiya.

      Yes I am a ghoti and a RARH.My forefathers were holding land since 1000 years same like my Ghatis/ maitis/ santhals brothers did.
      I can assure you one thing if I or my ancestors were thrown out of Birbhoom then that day a Prabhakaran will BORN. If I can stay in my forefathers land peacefully will not let anybody to stay there peacefully.

      Now tell me how many Bangals become Prabhakaran?. How many of your bloody intellectuals wrote, cried on Islamic atrocities ?. You people did one thing only parroted seccu / Makku lines.

      First read carefully what I wrote. Tripura/ Assam is facing huge problem due to refugees by that I mean Hindu/Muslim both then tell me what effort your Bangals did to become unite with Hindus of Assam and westbengal rather you lecture them how cultured you were. Started cultural dominance Assamese which made them more insecure.

      Ok do you know a big bangal bastard Jogendranath Mondal?. He was Hindu bangal who supported Muslim league to form East Pakistan then. When he was kicked out of Pakistan he took refuge in Kolkata and died a natural death. No bangal including your ancestors had the courage to asassinate him to give a message that proud Bangals never forget traitors.
      If you want izzat the don't pass derogatory comments on aboriginals and thanks them each year as they given you refuge in your hard times and speak against real enemies.

      This chutiyapa started by one of your bangal blood who said Ghotis were ugly and like South indians and Midnapore people are TUMPA.

      You want respect then fight like Tamils or Kashmiri pandits at least don't lecture aboriginals

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  22. Disagree with 7 Surname Factors.
    Bangals do have distinctive surnames. Surnames which are combined for ex raychaudhuri, sinharoy, guharoy, sengupta, dasgupta are typical bangal surnames unless it is stylised in modern fashion ex Konkona Sen Sharma where she uses both her parents name.

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  23. More info on Ghoti/Bangal is needed. Hard to come across many on net. I read on wiki about Edeshi people from all eastern districts of West Bengal. Are people from Kushtia also considered Edeshi considering it was part of nadia district before?

    Any info will be great.
    thanks

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  24. I have gathered from some senior citizen that before partition of Bengal (prior to 1947), people residing in districts like Khula, Pabna, Kushtia and Rajshahi (all in Bangladesh now) used to consider themselves 'Ghotis', the demarcation line being that they were on the Western side of River Padma. Bengalis residing east of River Padma were considered Bangals then.

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    3. @ Indranil thats true.....
      bangals are actually the other side of river padma (eastern side) and ghotis are this side of padma (western side)
      so jessore , khulna, rajshahi, satkhira, madaripur, pabna, noagaon, bogra, dinajpur, gaibandha and many more districts of undivded bengal were all resided by Ghotis.
      Barisal and Patuakhali were having a mixed culture of bangal and ghotis being that in the delta region.

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    4. bangals are mainly from dakha, sylhet, chattogram, tangail, noakhali, tipperah, comilla and other east padma district
      but now evrythng is a mixed culture of bangal and ghoti

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  25. Both Ghoti and Bangal people are great.But one thing that I dislike about east Indian Hindus is that they took shelter in ghoti's land and now they r criticizing them .Bangals should be grateful to ghotis rather than being against them.If some people took refuge bangal's jamis then Bangals would tell the same thing.All Bangals know it very well I believe .But still they don't show any gratefulness to the native Ghoti people.This is something I believe wrong .Otherwise both Ghoti and Bangals are really great.

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  26. This ghoti vs bangal is one big misconception we Bengali people are bearing through generation...
    There has been a variety of phonetics, dialects, cuisine among a large community named "bangali"....people of midnapur use a phonetic having Oriya influence, whereas people of murshidabad, malda, dinajpur have a different dialect...now keep in mind dinajpur in part is present in Bangladesh also...then there is people of 24parganas, in region close to border namely bongon, basirhat; these people bear so many similarity with native people of jessore, Khulna that it's difficult to say if one is west Bengal native or east Bengal native...my paternal ancestors hail from pabna, Bangladesh; and they have a dialect quite different from what is referred as bangal... :)

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    1. The thing is that our ancestry belongs to Jessore, we observe laxmi puja on the day of kali puja like the ghotis do...similarly we also observe sasthi like the ghotis.....on the other hand my mother is from comilla, a remotest part in bangladesh....they are kath bangal.......i can see a huge difference between their culture.........the thing is that we are culturally ghotis but originally bangal....... :-)

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    3. bangal and ghoti's main definition has been changed from east and west side padma resident to present day bangladesh refugee and west bengal original residents

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  27. Friends Muslim population in west Bengal has risen to 27%. Who knows a day may come when they would become majority in west Bengal just like east Bengal followed by another genocide like that of 1946-1947/1971. Than where bongs will go. Does anyone has answer. So its high time my all dears to join hands, forget the diff and become strong Hindu majority. Or else prepare itself for another communal war.

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    1. First step you Bangals took. The worst you faced so take each son from your houses and fight for a Hindu autonomous area in Bangladesh.
      Do you have that fire in you?.
      Tum sale CPM join karoge/ TMC join karoge/ want Govt subsidy then join Govt job then send your children to abroad and lecture us that we need unity.

      First start a commemoration ceromony each year where you will thank Ghotis/Assamese/Oriyas/Tripura tribals for their open heartedness to you people in your bad times.

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  28. See friends don't take me wrong. I am neither against Islam nor Muslims. I am against those jihad is. Recent riot in Nadia is being suspected by some as may be acts of jamaati Islam of Bangladesh. If they follow the principle of live and let live than definitely no problem for us. In fact I will say be strong Hindu majority and stand against JIHADIS.

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    1. Mr Paul don't be ostrich and if you don't have the guts to face the truth then die in vein many of your ancestors did that it makes no difference.

      I am not a bloody racist but you are a coward and try to hide behind these kind of arguments.

      First read the previous posts in which one of the bangal girl passed derogatory comments on Ghotis, so what you expect from us. You took refuge in our land we help you people in all ways you people pass a whole generation on CPM subsidy became a gheto voter then lecturing us.The bangals make it easy for bastards Communist to destroy RARH region and obviously 2 worst CM of WB were Bangals.

      Bangals were raped, butchered and thrown out of their 4 father's land and coming to India what their intellectia did ? ... Nothing I mean Nothing. They joined the Communist narrative that Muslims are very good, we all are humans and all that bullshits.

      At least proud Kashmiri pandits never did that. There intellectia was not taritor or betrayed their own people. In every possible platform they raised their voice. Openly said that Islam is a problem and they will not go back to their old neighbhours unlike bangal Nachiketa likes who when went to forefathers land cried there for 20 minutes then told Muslims are brothers bastard chutiya.

      Yes I am a ghoti and a RARH.My forefathers were holding land since 1000 years same like my Ghatis/ maitis/ santhals brothers did.
      I can assure you one thing if I or my ancestors were thrown out of Birbhoom then that day a Prabhakaran will BORN. If I can stay in my forefathers land peacefully will not let anybody to stay there peacefully.

      Now tell me how many Bangals become Prabhakaran?. How many of your bloody intellectuals wrote, cried on Islamic atrocities ?. You people did one thing only parroted seccu / Makku lines.

      First read carefully what I wrote. Tripura/ Assam is facing huge problem due to refugees by that I mean Hindu/Muslim both then tell me what effort your Bangals did to become unite with Hindus of Assam and westbengal rather you lecture them how cultured you were. Started cultural dominance Assamese which made them more insecure.

      Ok do you know a big bangal bastard Jogendranath Mondal?. He was Hindu bangal who supported Muslim league to form East Pakistan then. When he was kicked out of Pakistan he took refuge in Kolkata and died a natural death. No bangal including your ancestors had the courage to asassinate him to give a message that proud Bangals never forget traitors.
      If you want izzat the don't pass derogatory comments on aboriginals and thanks them each year as they given you refuge in your hard times and speak against real enemies.

      This chutiyapa started by one of your bangal blood who said Ghotis were ugly and like South indians and Midnapore people are TUMPA.

      You want respect then fight like Tamils or Kashmiri pandits at least don't lecture aboriginals

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    2. Hmmmm.... So u mean to say we didn't fought back. We fought back and that is the reason why many of them died. I just wanted to tell you be united as bong rather than as ghoti or bangal and yes there are many bangals who pass derogatory comments my msg to all not only to ghotis. First read and try to understand what I have written here. Without understanding you are commenting whatever is coming on your mind. Yes that bangal girl passed some derogatory comment and I am not supporting her either. Just wait m going to reply her too. But what about Mr kalyan he is the first person in this blog to say that bangals can make their head as low as unimaginable. Now tell me after reading that can anyone keep their mouth shut!! Yes I agree bangals taken a refuge in western part of Bengal, people should be highly grateful to ghotis, but that doesn't mean you people have the right to say us whatever you like. Ok leave it whatever u think it doesn't matter for me since this difference is slowly fading away and you are just one of those few who is still carrying pakka ghoti feeling in your heart. Ok enjoy yourself carrying this differences in your heart hoping that one day you will come to understand that united we stand individual we fall. Here the unity I am referring is unity among we bengalis and of course as an indians. Regarding that bangal girl sure I am going to reply her back for her comment.By the way I am not completely bangal nor completely ghoti bcoz our tradition is mix of both. My ancestors belong from sylhet region of Bangladesh. So keep up your attitude unless you understand what I am trying to tell. Anyways the day you understand that it shouldn't be too late. And if it's not too late than you are one day always welcome to my house for a mix of both ghoti bangal cuisine. In short Bengali cuisine. Now at the same time I am not racist bong also since I respect everyone's culture. Currently residing in Bangalore, and I know kannada fluently and my colleagues in the company really like me a lot because of my this attitude. Leave it why I am wasting my time. Shomoy Ashley dada apni nijei bujhte parben.

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    3. Hmmmm.... So u mean to say we didn't fought back. We fought back and that is the reason why many of them died. I just wanted to tell you be united as bong rather than as ghoti or bangal and yes there are many bangals who pass derogatory comments my msg to all not only to ghotis. First read and try to understand what I have written here. Without understanding you are commenting whatever is coming on your mind. Yes that bangal girl passed some derogatory comment and I am not supporting her either. Just wait m going to reply her too. But what about Mr kalyan he is the first person in this blog to say that bangals can make their head as low as unimaginable. Now tell me after reading that can anyone keep their mouth shut!! Yes I agree bangals taken a refuge in western part of Bengal, people should be highly grateful to ghotis, but that doesn't mean you people have the right to say us whatever you like. Ok leave it whatever u think it doesn't matter for me since this difference is slowly fading away and you are just one of those few who is still carrying pakka ghoti feeling in your heart. Ok enjoy yourself carrying this differences in your heart hoping that one day you will come to understand that united we stand individual we fall. Here the unity I am referring is unity among we bengalis and of course as an indians. Regarding that bangal girl sure I am going to reply her back for her comment.By the way I am not completely bangal nor completely ghoti bcoz our tradition is mix of both. My ancestors belong from sylhet region of Bangladesh. So keep up your attitude unless you understand what I am trying to tell. Anyways the day you understand that it shouldn't be too late. And if it's not too late than you are one day always welcome to my house for a mix of both ghoti bangal cuisine. In short Bengali cuisine. Now at the same time I am not racist bong also since I respect everyone's culture. Currently residing in Bangalore, and I know kannada fluently and my colleagues in the company really like me a lot because of my this attitude. Leave it why I am wasting my time. Shomoy Ashley dada apni nijei bujhte parben.

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  29. I am not going to comment on your diversification....but I would like to mention that your style of writing is quite boring...The intro part of your blog is too long and somehow seems to drag on...I don't mean any offence but as a writer myself I feel this suggestion can help you in future. You can either divide the parts into smaller paras or simply avoid detouring from the main topic as blogs need to be crisp.

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  30. Ghoti -Tea=Cha, 5= Pancho
    Bati -Tea=Sa , 5= Pass
    And many more ways we find them out , from Bengla Desh or East Bengal.

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  31. Medinipuria mane Jodi uncivilized hoi. Tahole Vidyasagar o nischoy uncivilized.

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    1. This a group bloody dominated by bangals. These Bangals milk us like anything then passing derogatory remarks on Ghotis.

      When I replied they removed by comments and again some Bangals coming here darling that I am racist and should be removed.

      They never accepting that their is some problem within them so aboriginals don't like them anymore after 70 years

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  33. On behalf of all Bangals I bow my head to Ghotis for welcoming us to ghotiland and for giving us shelter. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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    1. Thanks ... But one of ur bangals started abusing Ghotis as ugly like South Indian and Medinapore people as TUMPA. So I have show them some mirror.

      Anyways each years bangals should start a thanks giving ceremony to ghotis/Assames/oriyas

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  34. On behalf of all Bangals I bow my head to Ghotis for welcoming us to ghotiland and for giving us shelter. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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  35. Firstly I don't understand why south Indians are dragged here. I am a Bengali (no classification of Bangal or ghoti) and I live in south India And this place is very peaceful. They are tolerant and celebrate every culture. As for calling the bangals as cowards. . People who migrated during the 70s know what the situation was. And for ghotis.. generous enough to have sheltered the east bengalis

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  36. This article and comments section reflects how insulated Bengali Hindu BBK group still continues to be despite facing annihilation in eastern Bengal over last century and now demographic situation in WB looking to shore up not different from entire Bengal 150 years back. We have very little community sense. I wonder if western and eastern Punjabi non-Muslim groups had similar intra-group pettiness. Somehow I doubt it. We ghotis did tremendous harakiri in not assuming pan-Bengali-Hindu identity post-1947, and not responding tit for tat on local Muslims (Bengali or otherwise) in terms of what was happening in Bangladesh or East Pak. Instead we blamed Bangals (Hindus) and called them cowards. Now WB is 28% Muslim. One-sided pogroms and dadagiri going on by a minority community outside of Kolkata in places like Kaliachak and Deganga. Durga Puja is banned in certain villages. By the way, instead of trying to distinguish Bangal vs Ghoti in our Bengali Hindu upper-caste insulated world, how do we tell who is Bangladeshi Muslim or Ghoti WB origin Muslim? While I do think WB should be <3% Muslim similar to Indian Punjab post-partition, what really bothers me is when I see ghomta/gamchha-lungi-wearing Bengali Muslim male masses that clearly talk in east Bengali dialect. I see them in huge numbers while flying Emirates or Qatar airways, of course they all have Indian passports. Where exactly does the Ghoti dialect (btw Ghotis also have particular dialect marks which are different from the Nadia standard, like pronouncing เฆธ or เฆถ as s in many words) transition into the Bangal dialect (เฆš and เฆ› as s, เฆœ and เฆฏ as z)? Going the way we are going, Ghoti and Bangal both will be in Orissa in next century.

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    1. Thank God at least someone understood what I was saying exactly. Be united my humble request to all ghotis and bangals. And someone please remove that fellow anindo chowdhury. He is a bloody racist. Many of his comments are being removed by the author.

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    2. Thank God at least someone understood what I was saying exactly. Be united my humble request to all ghotis and bangals. And someone please remove that fellow anindo chowdhury. He is a bloody racist. Many of his comments are being removed by the author.

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    3. Yes remove me ... This is what you Bangals did. Remove aboriginals. See if you have guts counter me with facts don't rattle which you people can do best.

      Abe chutiye first ask who stร rted abusing Ghotis first ? Who made the mockery of Mednipure people ?.

      Now you ratling for Muslim population what your ancestors were doing since 70 yeras show me a single organisation Bangals formed for Hindu land in bangladesh.
      Grab Govt land and lecture on ravindra sangeet to aboriginal that the best you can do ...

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    4. V support u anindo...dese bangals really try 2 destroy whosoever tries 2 point at dem...2 hell wid dem

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    5. Sunny share your mail ID with me .. Need for ghoti identity movement.

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    6. Ghoti identity movt.? Seriously? Ato tai identity crisis e bhugchhen, sir? BP to 150 chhariye gachhe nischoi ;) Apni dada historian na politician bujhlam na. But irrespective of Ghoti-Bangal feud, khanikta psycho bole sandeho hochhe. In btwn, ur over usage of the word "aborigines" is somehow giving a tribal feeling rather than glorifying a particular sect that u r trying to defend ๐Ÿ˜œ Bhalo thakben dada ๐Ÿ˜

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    7. Barah nandan .... Pichone daam thakle anonymous identity na niye nijer real identity diye msg post Koro. By your comments I can understand your Pedigree. Have guts to counter me on facts don't make rhetoric comments. So better stop your Chu***pa.

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  38. We natives of west Bengal, ghotis need to fight back to eliminate Muslims from west Bengal and Bangals need to help us. If Bangals can help us in achieving this landmark, we ghotis will help Bangals get back purbo banga. We need to unite and get back Bengal for Hindus. Akhondo Bengal or Bangabhumi will be a Hindu rashtro.

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  40. Enough of spilling non-sense. Nobody is occupying the land of the ghotis.... the so-called land of ghotis, the Rarh lies on the left of Ganges. Hardly any refugee settled there; most settled on the East of Ganges, in Murshidabad, Nadia and 24 Paraganas. This is the good old Gaud kingdom area from the age of Shashanka. Since when that belong to only ghotis? Rarhis can stay safe in their place dancing with their madols; don't worry nobody will bother you. There is not much on the left bank of Ganges except a few point cities like Durgapur, Asansol etc.

    Anindo Chowdhury What is this thank giving and all? We were settled by the orders of New Delhi, and the lands in West Bengal is not parental property. So please F.O. as we Bangals need not feel grateful to anyone. We earned our own place and will go on. And if you have problem, don't cross ganges and come to Calcutta. You people from villages and small towns keep crowding the cities these days.

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  41. Buzz off refugee... I never heard that "sa sa sa " dilect in Murshidabad/Nadia/24 parganas except bangals use that dilect who came here since 1947 ..

    Now from attitude I can guess why Assamese/Oriyas are annoyed by you people.

    You mentioned your land .... Ha ha ha ..
    Get your general knowledge right shall I give you address of the refugee camps in Odisha and Assam.
    Pls visit Dandakaryana. Some of Ur relatives might have got free land there just like you grabbed in West bengal.

    One must thankful to people who gave them refuge in their time of difficulty. I just asked you to follow the same if that annoyed you then it's your problem and lecture those bangals who first started making mokery of Ghotis and aboriginal.

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    1. Your relatives are reeling in the remote Jharkhand.... in places like Dhanbad, Giridih, Deoghar and all. And they were not even refugees. I am sure they are having fun with the Biharis and Adivasis. Oh I forgot, you Rarhis yourself are half Biharis.

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    3. Such a disgrace you are ... You are calling me adivasi and bihari. If I am adivasi I am proud of that at least not like you who came here and survive on Govt rations and then got land that to free. At least adivasi from Rarh were the earliest to fight against any foreign ruler.

      If you have guts produce a Prabhakaran from your community to avenge the rapes commited on your women by Bangladeshi Muslims ..

      Until then Buzz of .. chal chal

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    4. Listen you dildo.... firstly I did not call you adivasi or bihari.... don't yet loose your mental sanity. I just called you half-bihari, not full of it. And the adivasis don't like you either in their place..... that is why they keep aligning to the maoists and naxals.

      "At least adivasi from Rarh were the earliest to fight against any foreign ruler. " Don't be so exuberant. Who brought the foreign rulers in? The zamidar of Nadia conspired against Siraj, and so are a lot of the zamidars in the West. You rather have more contribution in letting the British in, than anything driving them out.

      And next time learn some manners..... looks like your parents hardly taught you any.

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  42. Listen boy, stop bickering over the internet. If you have the balls, go abuse on face.... I bet people will cut your balls and shove them down your throat.

    And forget about the land on the east of the Ganges, it was never yours. If you can, go recover the tail of Jharkhand starting from Dhanbad-Deoghar all the way to the North. That used to be historically a part of Rarh.

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  43. Listen you idiot ... I have no problems with Jharkhandis / Biharis / Odiya / adivasis / Santhals because with them I live since 2000 years.
    Because of that I am not a Dhimmis like You. Come to your refugee colony in Odisha Assam, Jharkhand you will know how local people treat them ha ha ha ....
    But I am happy that they are now clearly distinct between Ghotis and refugees now.

    Now if you want to know my balls try Ur self ... Jekhan theke esechile okhane pathiye dobo.

    Chaal be first try to fight for Ur lost dignity and honour then argue with me.
    Bookoni jhero na..... Tomader ekjon was mockering Ghotis / S.Indians so I shown them some miror. Chaal haat ..

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  45. Before you comment and paint everybody by the same brush. Go and read the previous comments which bangals have posted.

    Unity come with accepting certain amount of truth...
    And truth is Bangals came to Ghoti land. Truth is Bangals become ghetto voters of CPM/TMC. Truth is Bangals here become big liberads and Maccus. Truth is that bangals never recognised Ghotis/ Assamese / odiyas where they took refuge. They should be ever thankful to these people.

    Why Ghotis will take derogatory comments by bangals which are absolutely racist

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  46. Wow!! My grandfather once told me we are not Bangaals(East Pakistani Refugees)..Never brought any Bangaal girl in home..

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  47. Though most common surnames among Bengali Hindus are common to both Bangals and Ghotis, like Roy, Ghosh, Bosu, Chokroborty, Mukherji, Benarji/Bondopaddhay, Chatterjee/Chottopaddhay, Ganguly/Gonggopaddhay, Kar, Biswas, Sadhu, Shil, Sen, Saha, Sirkar/Sarkar, Das, Mondol, Saha, Majumdar, Dutto/Dutta, Talukder, Lahiri, Mitra/Mitter, Moitro/Maitra,Bagchi etc.

    Some surnames are specific only to Ghotis and Edeshis, like Adak, Adhikary, Bagui, Bhaduri, Daffadar, Dandapat,Dolui, Gorai, Guin, Hazra, Hela, Jana, Karan, Karak, Karmakar, Kundu, Laha, Mahapatra, Maity, Middye, Modak, Nag, Nandi, Naskar, Nayak, Neogi, Paik, Pain, Pal, Panja, Patra, Sadhu, Sadhukhan, Samanta, Sardar, Sapui, Sasmal, She-al, Sinha, Tarafder, Topdar, Mihiracharyaa etc.

    Similarly some surnames are particular to Bangals, like Bhuinya, Bhattacharjee(Bhottacharjo), Deb, Deb-nath,Deb-rai,De/Dey, Malakar, Nath, Guha, Guha-Thakurta, Gupto, Dasgupta, Lahiri(y), Sengupta, Shorma, Sil, Shil, Sheel, Shilsharma,Dash-Shorma, Deb-Shorma, Dash-Munshi, Munshi, Dewanji, Munshiji, Kannungo/Qannungoh, Mahalanobis, Kundu, Purakayastha/Purkait, etc.

    Also, when two surnames are fused into one like RoyChoudhury, Sengupta, Duttagupta (not when a married woman combines her maiden and married surname), usually such surnames belong to only "Bangals".

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  48. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜ A delightful scribbling, it lighten my face with a smile, it all should be taken with a pinch of salt....yet some comments and replies are quite aggressive...and full of hatered.... rightly said our identities changes with the demographic condition. We should not forget that

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  49. All are Gandu.... Basically bengali are Gandu, wheather Ghoti or Bangal. It is a lost community. there are more than twenty dialect in Assamese, but they are united. Bodo language is completely different from Assamese, tiwa is not similar to Assamese, even 99% word are different, but they are united. Even there are lots of bangaladeshi bodo, rabha, kuch rajbansi, garo tribal migrated to assam, but all are united, no one saying some BODO are bangaldeshi in assam. Three district of bengal are now in assam, viz goalpara/cachar/one subdidvision of selhet, but some are saying, all bengali of assam are refugee. Stop divide, try to united. @ shanatnu ghorai, ur info are not correct, there are bangal hazra as well, again there are lots of bangal paal. don't mislead if u don't hv the right info.

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  50. I am ghoti and based on my observations I think Bangals are more selfish in general. They are loud mouth and uncivilized. They have practical understanding of law, and more risk takers in general. Bangals are also more truthful and simple-minded. We ghotis are more complex and idle. Bangals more likely to secure their future and try business than us We ghotis are more cultured, sophisticated, idle and intellectual. We ghotis want stable jobs, and a stable relationship. Bangals tend to leave the boyfriend if he doesn't have a job Ghoti doesn't do this. Bangals also don't think before they speak. They just shout.

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  51. One more thing, please don't misunderstand me. It is just the truth as I see with my eyes. If a bangal and ghoti fights, the ghoti will always be irritated and tired before the bangal and will give up the fight. On the other hand, sophistication and intellectual conversation is something ghoti enjoys more.

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